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Kaladin and his father were originally very close, and he trained him in all of the minutia of surgery and medicine. Lirin was very proud of how quickly Kaladin learned, and wanted him to devote his life to becoming a surgeon. He believed that he could some day surpass him in skill.{{book ref|sa1|10}} Despite their rather positive relationship, the two often got into fights about the value of soldiers and of surgeons. These debates often resulted in Lirin getting angry at his son for his idolization of the military and his belief in Alethi jingoism. He attempted to instill in Kaladin his own sense of pacifism, and fundamentally disagreed with the idea that one can take lives in order to protect others.{{book ref|sa1|10}}{{book ref|sa1|20}}
 
Kaladin and his father were originally very close, and he trained him in all of the minutia of surgery and medicine. Lirin was very proud of how quickly Kaladin learned, and wanted him to devote his life to becoming a surgeon. He believed that he could some day surpass him in skill.{{book ref|sa1|10}} Despite their rather positive relationship, the two often got into fights about the value of soldiers and of surgeons. These debates often resulted in Lirin getting angry at his son for his idolization of the military and his belief in Alethi jingoism. He attempted to instill in Kaladin his own sense of pacifism, and fundamentally disagreed with the idea that one can take lives in order to protect others.{{book ref|sa1|10}}{{book ref|sa1|20}}
   
Even in his time as a slave and soldier, he still looked at his father as a true man of honor, the most honorable man he has ever known. He respects how he healed even those that hated him, which would likely have come to helped shape his Third Ideal.{{book ref|sa1|53}}{{book ref|sa2|84}} He still holds tightly to many of his teachings.{{book ref|sa1|53}}
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Even in his time as a slave and soldier, he still looked at his father as a true man of honor, the most honorable man he has ever known.{{book ref|sa1|53}} He also still holds tightly to many of his teachings.{{book ref|sa1|53}}
   
 
After they reunited, their relationship became immediately strained. Lirin was heartbroken by how his son, despite everything that he had taught him, had become a soldier and a killer.{{book ref|sa3|7}} He thinks of what had happened as being like the military system taking his son away from him.{{book ref|sa1|44}}
 
After they reunited, their relationship became immediately strained. Lirin was heartbroken by how his son, despite everything that he had taught him, had become a soldier and a killer.{{book ref|sa3|7}} He thinks of what had happened as being like the military system taking his son away from him.{{book ref|sa1|44}}

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