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Stepping away from concete information some details of the origin of the men of gold and red could be guessed from what we have. Due to their advanced weaponrary it can be presumed that they orignate from a technologically developed world, as well as one that would have a sizeable and stable perpendicularity for them to access and use in order to initially enter the cognitive realm. If these two factors are accepted as true one may then eliminate Roshar and Threnody from the list of viable canditates. Accepting as well that Scadrial is unlikely to fight for its own destruction we are then left with Sel, Taldain and Nalthis as potential world of origins.
 
Stepping away from concete information some details of the origin of the men of gold and red could be guessed from what we have. Due to their advanced weaponrary it can be presumed that they orignate from a technologically developed world, as well as one that would have a sizeable and stable perpendicularity for them to access and use in order to initially enter the cognitive realm. If these two factors are accepted as true one may then eliminate Roshar and Threnody from the list of viable canditates. Accepting as well that Scadrial is unlikely to fight for its own destruction we are then left with Sel, Taldain and Nalthis as potential world of origins.
   
Taldain itself is notable for being more technologically advanced than Sacdrial{{wob|1807}} and also being inhabited by an [[Sand Lord|Avatar of Autonomy]], however it must also be kept in mind that that for reasons unknown Autonomy seeked the destruction of the users of their invested art on that world{{book ref|ws|18|review=yes}} and later enacted a policy of isolationism on it.{{wob|1807}} Both of these factors make Taldain less obvious a choice. For Sel and Nalthis both planets have no confirmed history of intrusion from Autonomy and each were inhabited by a different [[Shard]] making it unlikely for Autonomy's involvement, however it has been noted by some a similarity between the description of the [[Sorcerress]]' army{{book ref|tress|61}} and the men of gold and red. From this then it is possible that both worlds had some connection to the origins of this force.
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Taldain itself is notable for being more technologically advanced than Sacdrial{{wob ref|1807}} and also being inhabited by an [[Sand Lord|Avatar of Autonomy]], however it must also be kept in mind that that for reasons unknown Autonomy seeked the destruction of the users of their invested art on that world{{book ref|ws|18|review=yes}} and later enacted a policy of isolationism on it.{{wob ref|1807}} Both of these factors make Taldain less obvious a choice. For Sel and Nalthis both planets have no confirmed history of intrusion from Autonomy and each were inhabited by a different [[Shard]] making it unlikely for Autonomy's involvement, however it has been noted by some a similarity between the description of the [[Sorcerress]]' army{{book ref|tress|61}} and the men of gold and red. From this then it is possible that both worlds had some connection to the origins of this force.
   
 
== Notes ==
 
== Notes ==

Revision as of 10:31, 30 September 2023

Men of gold and red
Leader Autonomy
World of Origin Unknown
Universe Cosmere
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You are fools! One day, the men of gold and red, bearers of the final metal, will come to you. And you will be ruled by them. Worship. Worship Trell and wait ...

—Miles Dagouter's last words[1]

The men of gold and red is an army under the direct command of Autonomy which she uses to invade and conquer other worlds failing her other efforts to rule them. The soldiers themselves have golden skin and glowing red eyes; they are also remarked to appear quite statuesque. There are at least several thousand of them and they have access to rifles that Marasi Colms considered advanced in 348 PC.[2] Throughout its history the army has only had to be used a handful of times; when unleashed they are said to be quite difficult to control.[3][4] It is unknown what worlds they were sent to but TwinSoul claims to have personally seen their destructive potential.[3]

This army was the one that Autonomy intended to use to invade Scadrial, her intentions with this remain somewhat unclear. A member of the Set, Miles Dagouter, seemed of the opinion that this army was geared to conquer and then rule Scadrial,[1] while Gave Entrone instead seemed convinced they would simply slaughter its inhabitants.[5] Miles also mentioned that they would wield a previously unknown metal,[1] a possible reference to trellium. The invasion was ultimately prevented from taking place after constable Marasi Colms, with the help of those trapped in the Community, managed to collapse the perpendicularity the troops were meant to use.[6]

Origin and Invested Arts

The original world of the men of gold and red is unknown, however some of their members are from a known Shardworld and use a known Invested Art.[7] As of that time the only known Shardworlds were that of Scadrial, Roshar, Sel, Taldain, Threnody, and Nalthis. Seeing as the army was set to invade Scadrial at the time it is unlikely any of their number originates from there. Although each Shard does have an associated color just because a Shard may be associated with gold or red does not necessarily mean they are associated with this army.[8]

This page or section deals with theories or speculation.
Please read carefully and note that this is not necessarily canonical.

Stepping away from concete information some details of the origin of the men of gold and red could be guessed from what we have. Due to their advanced weaponrary it can be presumed that they orignate from a technologically developed world, as well as one that would have a sizeable and stable perpendicularity for them to access and use in order to initially enter the cognitive realm. If these two factors are accepted as true one may then eliminate Roshar and Threnody from the list of viable canditates. Accepting as well that Scadrial is unlikely to fight for its own destruction we are then left with Sel, Taldain and Nalthis as potential world of origins.

Taldain itself is notable for being more technologically advanced than Sacdrial[9] and also being inhabited by an Avatar of Autonomy, however it must also be kept in mind that that for reasons unknown Autonomy seeked the destruction of the users of their invested art on that world[10] and later enacted a policy of isolationism on it.[9] Both of these factors make Taldain less obvious a choice. For Sel and Nalthis both planets have no confirmed history of intrusion from Autonomy and each were inhabited by a different Shard making it unlikely for Autonomy's involvement, however it has been noted by some a similarity between the description of the Sorcerress' army[11] and the men of gold and red. From this then it is possible that both worlds had some connection to the origins of this force.

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