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I believe that the argument that Ruin was short-shighted is quite wrong - though in the end Leras proved to be more of a schemer it was mentioned enough times for me to recall that Ruin is not a mindless force of destruction and he has indeed been seen to be sly enough - convincing Vin to release him, placing spikes all around, causing chaos at the correct times etc. . Also I'd like to mention that his Power - his body - the atium was taken away from him and hidden thus probably extreamly decreasing his prophetic abilities.
 
I believe that the argument that Ruin was short-shighted is quite wrong - though in the end Leras proved to be more of a schemer it was mentioned enough times for me to recall that Ruin is not a mindless force of destruction and he has indeed been seen to be sly enough - convincing Vin to release him, placing spikes all around, causing chaos at the correct times etc. . Also I'd like to mention that his Power - his body - the atium was taken away from him and hidden thus probably extreamly decreasing his prophetic abilities.
 
My last point is such - though Cultivation and Preservation might have a greater affinity towards foresight and thus their power is attuned to it, Odium, by nature, is likly not to care much of the future, since, atleast to me, hatred is an emotion which rarly has anything to do with logic, planning or insight which are what I see as needed to "realize" the future or the like.
 
My last point is such - though Cultivation and Preservation might have a greater affinity towards foresight and thus their power is attuned to it, Odium, by nature, is likly not to care much of the future, since, atleast to me, hatred is an emotion which rarly has anything to do with logic, planning or insight which are what I see as needed to "realize" the future or the like.
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I agree with this. I don't think Ruin was short sighted as he carefully orchestrated events in his favor for thousands of years. The whole section reads like an opinion piece without any sources from Sanderson. I think it should be rewritten. [[Special:Contributions/172.68.154.7|172.68.154.7]] 12:51, 11 December 2017 (MST)
   
 
== The Thrill ==
 
== The Thrill ==

Revision as of 19:51, 11 December 2017

Odium is scared of Harmony

In the Waygate foundation Q&A (http://youtu.be/qRhup20Ns1c?t=1h59m35s) Brandon mentions that Odium is scared of Harmony. Unfortunately, I have no idea how to format the ref for this....

World

This page is gonna need to be updated with the new Odium stuff. I tried to change his world to Braise, and the template did not like that one bit. Joe, is there some behind-the-scenes stuff that needs to be done to allow for new worlds in the Shard infobox? --Windrunner (talk) 06:12, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Shardic Sight Theory - disagreement

I believe that the argument that Ruin was short-shighted is quite wrong - though in the end Leras proved to be more of a schemer it was mentioned enough times for me to recall that Ruin is not a mindless force of destruction and he has indeed been seen to be sly enough - convincing Vin to release him, placing spikes all around, causing chaos at the correct times etc. . Also I'd like to mention that his Power - his body - the atium was taken away from him and hidden thus probably extreamly decreasing his prophetic abilities. My last point is such - though Cultivation and Preservation might have a greater affinity towards foresight and thus their power is attuned to it, Odium, by nature, is likly not to care much of the future, since, atleast to me, hatred is an emotion which rarly has anything to do with logic, planning or insight which are what I see as needed to "realize" the future or the like.

I agree with this. I don't think Ruin was short sighted as he carefully orchestrated events in his favor for thousands of years. The whole section reads like an opinion piece without any sources from Sanderson. I think it should be rewritten. 172.68.154.7 12:51, 11 December 2017 (MST)

The Thrill

Based on Taravangian's interlude in WoR, the theory that Odium is the direct cause of the Thrill seems to be discounted in favor of a spren, 'Nergaoul', which seems to generate the Thrill simply be being near those around it. This appears to be similar to another possibly related spren, Moelach, causing the death rattles recorded throughout WoK's epigraphs.