User talk:Thegatorgirl00/Investiture

Comments from Jofwu:

1. Nature
   1. Laws of Investiture
      1. I wish there was a way to not label the whole "Laws of Investiture" section as speculative, but I don't see a way to do it (without ruining the great organization and flow)...
      2. Do we have the term "[First - Fourth] Law of Invesiture"? These come across as official names. That's fine since it's under that "theory" tag, but I think it would maybe be better if they were simply "the [first - fourth] law" to not imply they are official names for the laws. (especially when it seems likely that they're all "Khriss's Laws")
      3. Is there a reason they are numbered with the "special law"first? My sense is they should correlate with the laws of thermodynamics and then the one relating to Adonalsium would be fourth. (this is how this cited WoB numbers it)
   2. Realmic Interactions
      1. "For some reason, all solid Investiture is metallic, the result of one of the laws governing the cosmere." I think this should be softened to say it is USUALLY metallic, or something like that. I think there are some cases where you might argue it takes other forms (Brandon himself seems to, regarding aethers, in the second citation. The Edgedancer citation I think has some wiggle room.) (and that's not to get into theoretical, metaphysical arguments about whether you can say technically anything made of mass is, in a sense, also Investiture)
      2. I think Navani notes that Light shares properties of both gas and light. I wonder if the statement that "In the Physical Realm, Investiture is known to exist in solid, liquid, and gaseous material forms." should be followed with something about manifesting as light, or just other phenomena besides matter? (though with the "material forms" clarification that isn't strictly necessary)
   3. Intent
      1. Looking at the content of the section, I think this would be better named Shardic Intent? If it is meant to cover Intention more broadly, I think it ideally needs to be expanded a bit?
      2. "All of the Investiture in the cosmere is associated with one of the sixteen Shards of Adonalsium." - Aethers and purified Dor have made me skeptical about this statement. Probably need to have a discussion in Keeper chat about this topic. I think my proposal would be to say something like: "All Investiture in the cosmere that was associated with Adonalsium was assigned to one of the sixteen Shards following the Shattering." (though for the Intent section, this then leaves the question open of whether other forms
   4. Anti-Investiture
      1. Probably a good idea to link the Wikipedia antimatter page
2. Forms
   1. The Cognitive Realm
      1. "Physical beings fully entering and leaving the Cognitive Realm, the physical body transfers into and comes out of the Investiture." Something missing from this sentence.
3. Access
   1. Natural Manifestations
      1. "Sunlight is also Invested on both Taldain and Canticle." I think it would be good to cite this.
      2. "Some fauna have also naturally evolved to have a symbiotic relationship with Splinters." I realize it's kind of a transition paragraph, but I'm feeling like this paragraph would fit better in the following section? Maybe with a line added at the end of this section saying simply that "some fauna access Investiture via bonds" without getting into all of these examples?
   2. Invested Objects
      1. Opening paragraph here needs some citations?
      2. "Sometimes when an object in one of the Realms has a large amount of Investiture it can gain sentience (see, for example, spren and Nightblood)." - Citation on this one?
4. Measurement and Detection
   1. Measurement
      1. "Highly Invested individuals typically have no more than three BEUs of Investiture." I think its a bit odd how Nomad phrases this... Many "highly Invested individuals" on Nalthis obviously have far more than three Breaths. I think he must only be referring to NORMAL levels of Investiture? Like maybe someone on Roshar is at 2 BEUs because of storms??? I'm not sure the best way to phrase this. Maybe we need to have a conversation on Discord about how to interpet it.
5. Known Investiture
   1. Might be better to name this "Known Manifestations [of Investiture]"? Also feels a bit weird to me that we just get the table with no text--even just something brief explaining what the table shows?
   2. Part of me doesn't like this table because it's awkwardly missing some things, and that it could get very long...

Some additional thoughts:

1. The article doesn't really address "keying" of Investiture to Identity. Maybe it needs an Identity section under Nature? (between unkeyed metalminds, purified Dor, and maaaaybe the Light experiments
2. Do we need to address "Commanding" Investiture somewhere? (even if only to link that page) I think maybe that could go under either Nature or Uses.
3. Should rhythms and tones be addressed briefly somewhere?
4. I think the previous content on color is VERY unnecessary, though I do wonder if we should perhaps at least briefly address that (1) different forms of Investiture sometimes have associated colors, (2) red frequently indicates corruption or mixing of Investitures, and (perhaps 3?) something about black???
5. Probably worth addressing that Invested beings tend to exhibit certain properties/abilities? I'm mostly thinking about how we see Rysn and Nomad experience some effects similar to Heightenings. I definitely don't think it needs to go into detail marking off precisely what these effects are, but I think it's notable.
6. Coming off of that thought, the current article digs into healing. Most of that I think is unnecessary, but maybe we need something about the way highly Invested beings can heal/change to fit their self-perception / Spiritual self?
7. Do we need to address / mention the interactions between Investiture and aluminum and silver?